TommyR
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2011 8:34:10 AM
Interesting and somewhat ironic.
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GManCo
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2011 5:04:43 PM
Stupid idea.
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HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2011 4:40:07 PM
Thanks G_B.
On a side note,
I have never seen any public executions where people have their heads chopped off in Venezuela, but they sure do have them in Saudi Arabia.
I don't think Hugo stone's his people to death either.
Just becaus Hugo has the nads to stand up to the U.S. and he called Bush the devil doesn't make him worse than the Saudi's.
[Edited by: HeavyDuty_cache at 3/13/2011 4:42:52 PM EST]
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2011 9:05:55 PM
HeavyDuty_cache:
"I thought NEX didn't renew their contract with CITGO."
They didn't.
The Navy Exchange Command, responsible for the retail outlets on Navy installations, decided to apply the NEX label to all 94 gas stations supplied by CITGO on its bases worldwide several years ago, just as the a number of Army, Air Force, and Marine Corps exchanges did. CITGO continued to provide gasoline under its competitively bid $60 million-a-year contracts to supply the Navy Exchange with gas until it's contract ran out in 2010. CITGO's relationship with the exchange dates back to 1989. As an aside, replacing the CITGO signs with NEX was, according to the Navy Exchange Command, began in 2008 and followed an industry "best practice," branding the gas stations with the Navy Exchange's own name like Sam's Club, Kroger and other civilian retailers do.
Bottom line: The CITGO contract ran its course, but that's not as good a story as simply posting that "...a lot of military bases specifically Navy bases sell citgo on post" without first checking the facts. Especially when you can post anonymously and not be accountable or responsible for what you post.
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HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2011 7:51:24 PM
1, I thought NEX didn't renew their contract with CITGO.
2, Venezuela isn't communist, it is a socialist type of economy.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2011 5:36:06 PM
"If we could run cars on ignorance, this thread alone would provide enough for the next century."
Well, it's interesting that daklipper, a three year member in good standing, with 13,975 points contributing to his helping his fellow "gas buddies", thinks Venezuela is a "commie country". It's not; it's socialist, but why split hairs when you can make anonymous random statements.
I suppose, daklipper, the Navy shouldn't seel gas from other countries that might be "questionable." After all, Saudi Arabia has human rights issues we're concerned about; Brazil has sold material and equipment to Iran, Mexico has legal issues, including immigration, with the United Staets, and Russia...well, we'll let that one go buy because, after all, they are "commie". So. Who do you intend to buy your oil from? Only perfect partners?
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sluggopyle
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2011 3:33:31 PM
==> So our military (sailors) are funding an unfriendly commie country how messed up is that? <==
If we could run cars on ignorance, this thread alone would provide enough for the next century.
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daklipper
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2011 2:03:39 PM
I wont buy gas from them. Oddly enough a lot of military bases specifically Navy bases sell citgo on post. So our military (sailors) are funding an unfriendly commie country how messed up is that?
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2011 5:16:53 PM
Canada hates us? You mean even the Canadians who are members of Gas Buddy?
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KentuckyWildcat
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2011 5:14:47 PM
All gas monies seem to go to countries that hate us....even Canada!
[Edited by: KentuckyWildcat at 3/8/2011 5:15:00 PM EST]
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Substanz
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2011 12:01:07 AM
I'll support the Venezuelan people all I damn want. Chavez isn't Anti-American, but he sure isn't in favor of the fascist U.S. corporatocracy.
[Edited by: Substanz at 3/7/2011 12:01:42 AM EST]
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2011 11:31:27 AM
And performers including Beyonce, Usher, Mariah Carey, Lionel Ritchie, and 50 cent performed for him.
That Chavez is providing moral support is surprising? One of the difficulties with Chavez supporting Qadaffi, or perhaps benefits, is that Chavez, who has offered to mediate the problems between Qadaffi and the rebels (and, perhaps the rest of the world), is one of the few that might be able to talk with Qadaffi and encourage him to step down relatively peacefully. (Relatively is a relative term.) Probably no one else would be able to do so politically that Qadaffi can relate to.
So here's a question, and I'm not looking for an answer. If Chavez is able to mediate the Libya situation, do you not accept the opportunity to reduce bloodshed and bring the Libya situation to a quiet and peaceful resolution (whatever that may be). That is not, in any way, meant to say Chavez is a good guy.
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TommyR
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2011 6:35:56 AM
Hugo is giving moral support to Daffy Kadafi of Libiya.
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sluggopyle
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2011 2:43:45 PM
=> Sometimes it's just posting the point that makes you feel better about the drivel that will follow. <=
-- and right on cue... ;-)
But in retrospect I guess I shoulda said 'maybe he's a friend of "the" Ookmon'. :-P
[Edited by: sluggopyle at 3/5/2011 2:46:59 PM EST]
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bruin19MD
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2011 1:48:47 PM
Sunoco buys less foreign oil than anyone else
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torinix
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2011 1:38:07 PM
"And worse, you're dealing with a guy who prolly doesn't know the difference between "the" halal and "the" Hamas (maybe he's a friend of Ookmon) --"
LOLOLOL...."the" hahal.
Sometimes it's just posting the point that makes you fell better about the drivel that will follow.
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2011 8:52:48 AM
ok, why didn't someone inform me about this? now I'm gonna have to make a 2nd sign.
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sluggopyle
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2011 11:04:43 PM
GB, that's a lot of words to expend for little expected return. After all he didn't even mention halal- that's your assumption. And worse, you're dealing with a guy who prolly doesn't know the difference between "the" halal and "the" Hamas (maybe he's a friend of Ookmon) --
I dunno, it just seems like an awful lot of work for twenty points and a guy who won't be able to comprehend. Read his posts-- not only the link to textdeleted.com, but there's no 'their' there ;-D
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2011 10:34:04 PM
gunnerWV:
I have no idea what website is: /2010/10 text deleted
However, You wrote: "Don't forget Cambell Soup and there products.
On Sept.22 they were in Canada to support the Hamas"
There are multiple issues to what you're writing.
First, Campbell wasn't in Canada just September 22, nor was it in Canada to support the Hamas.
I believe Campbell's has been in Canada since before World War II, in the 1930s. The products you're apparently talking about, the halal products, about a dozen products, were developed by Campbell's Canadian subsidiary to take advantage of a Canadian market it couldn't sell to before for dietary reasons; because there are 700,000 Muslims in Canada, Campbell's is able to sell soup to 700,000 more people than it previously could because its previous products weren't halal certified, meaning they didn't meet Islamic dietary requirements. It's no different than selling Kosher; without Kosher certification, there are a large group of people that cannot and will not buy the product. It's a variation, though a religious one, of selling gluten-free or low sodium (or sodium-free) products.
Side note: Campbell's halal products aren't sold in the United States.
These products are certified by the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), the largest non-profit, religious, educational, and non-political Islamic organization in North America. ISNA's Halal Certification Program was established in conjunction with professionals in the field of Islamic foods and nutrition, and with Islamic scholars. The program includes the review of ingredients, formulas, manufacturing and sanitation processes.
One of people who opposes Cambell's decision to have it's Canadian products certified by ISNA, a organization that government prosecutors alleged had ties to the Hamas in a 2007 conspiracy case is Pam Geller, who has said that she doesn't want a boycott of Campbells, just that she opposes Campbell's decision to have its Canadian products certified by the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), an organization that government prosecutors alleged had ties to the terrorist group Hamas in a 2007 conspiracy case.
What's ironic, I guess, is that last year ISNA reperesentatives met with Secretary of State Clinton and officials in the State Department, and with White House officials as part of the National Intereligious Leadership Initiative for Peace in the Middle East, and the ISNA is one of two Endorsing Agents listed by the Department of Defense for Muslim chaplains serving in the United States Armed Forces. I guess, then, that you'll boycott the White House, the State Department, and the Department of Defense?
On a less serious note, Ms. Geller was a guest on a national radio show hosted by Joy Behar, along with Ron Reagan (son of the former president) and Stephanie Miller. The host of the show, Behar, asked Ron Reagan about Sarah Palin. The transcript of the show was as follows:
Miller:
Ronald, let me ask Ron -- why do we pay attention to this woman? She has a point.
Reagan:
Well, indeed, and I think we do have to pay attention to her, unfortunately -- it's sad that we have to pay attention to her, because she's totally unqualified for high office. Yet --
Geller:
Your father would love her. Your father would love her.
Miller:
First of all, his father didn't quit halfway through the term.
Geller: Neither did she. Neither did she. She did not quit. The Lower 48 needed her, and she heeded the call. She did not take the easy way out.
Reagan:
No, she quit. No, Pam, she quit. When you leave the governorship halfway through your first term, it's called quitting. She quit.
Geller:
She came to lead the next revolution.
Reagan:
Quit. Quit.
Behar: Ron, Ron -- no, I want to hear from Ron. Why would your father not like this woman?
Reagan:
Because she doesn't have a thought in her head. That's why.
Geller:
That's what they said about your father.
Reagan:
My father knew what he stood for, you can agree with it or disagree with it, he knew how -- what he stood for, he could explain what he stood for. He was conversant in domestic and foreign policy -- she's neither! She can't explain where she stands on anything!
Geller:
Your father would love her, and frankly I don't think you can speak for your father, because you -- you don't even espouse --
Reagan:
No, Pam, actually, have you ever met my father, Pam? Pam, did you ever meet my father?
Geller:
Did you ever meet the Founding Father. I've read everything he said. I've read everything he said.
Reagan:
Did you ever meet my father? I'm asking you a simple question. You can't answer that because the answer is no. So why don't you rely on someone who knew him very well to tell you what he would think of Sarah Palin.
Behar:
It's really hard for you to argue with the offspring of the guy and claim you know more than he does.
Geller:
He's nothing like the father! He doesn't share the epistemology of the father. He doesn't have the nature of his father, the knowledge -- he has nothing in common with the father. Look --
Behar:
He knows what his father would think rather than you.
[Crosstalk]
Reagan:
Is Pam still blathering about me and my father? Oh, you are. You still haven't met him, though, right? You still didn't know him, so you're just sort of making things up as you go along, right?
Geller:
You never met him either. You know, you never met him either. Do you think you're making your father proud? Do you really think you're making your father proud?
[End of transcript]
That is the person that's leading the boycott you're asking people to join. That's the credibility of a boycott leader?
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torinix
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2011 9:35:22 PM
I am so glad I stopped reading this trash. Uninformed and loud, two of my favorite traits in people.
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sluggopyle
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2011 9:08:23 PM
==> Ok Gas Buddy,you can go to the following website and see this for yourself.
/2010/10 text deleted
Not all of us chase rumors <==
-- Precious :-D
And what a fitting end for this sorryass thread.
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gunnerWV
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2011 8:55:13 PM
Ok Gas Buddy,you can go to the following website and see this for yourself.
/2010/10 text deleted
Not all of us chase rumors.You will also see this has nothing to do with,
pork and beans and what they eat or drink.ITS MONEY.
You can also buy the Koran in english.READ IT.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2011 2:05:44 PM
"7-11 was tied in to Citgo for awhile I'am not sure now though.some Citgo,
stations have started pulling up there stations at 7-11's around my area."
Hate to break the news but it's been a relatively long time since the contract between CITGO and 7-Eleven expired (and was not renewed).
As for" Since we are on boycott's,Don't forget Cambell Soup and there products", not sure how this has anything to do with gas, but isn't this story really about Campbell's products getting halal certification, meaning that the food products are allowed for consumption by Muslims? Isn't halal similar to Kosher certification? For example, all foods are consdidered halal (which means lawful or permitted) except the following, which are haram (which means prohibited):
Swine/Pork and its by-products
Animals improperly slaughtered or dead before slaughtering
Alcoholic drinks and intoxicants
Carnivorous animals, birds of prey and certain other animals
Foods contaminated with any of the above products
Foods containing ingredients such as gelatin, enzymes, emulsifiers, and flavors are questionable (mashbooh), because the origin of these ingredients is not known.
Campbell isn't and hasn't supported Hamas; the objection raised against Campbell is that it supported Hamas nor was a boycott called for Campbell introducing a halal food line. The objection was halal certification came from the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), a group with ties to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. The call was for certification from another group, without such ties.
Better, gunnerWV, you do a little more research into such rumors before posting them. And, we look forward to you continuing to post gas prices for your fellow West Virginians.
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sluggopyle
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2011 11:04:48 AM
==> Your right on about Citgo gas.Just so that all of you know,Exxon,Shell,
Chevron,Mobil are arab oil.Flying J,BP,and Sheetz are not arab oil.
There are several other off brand stations in the mid west and south,
that are not arab oil that includes Wal-mart gas. <==
Ah, once again this load of warm malarkey floats to the surface. What you have there, rookie, is an e-mail tale that's been debunked in these pages about fifteen thousand times (and elsewhere as well). Just like the present malarkey thread we're sitting in. Oil just doesn't work that way. Never did.
Hate to be the bearer of profound revelation but -- don't believe everything your e-mail inbox tells you. As you can see from the existence of this thread, that doesn't stop the gullible from making it into discussion threads. As you can also see, once the original poster here left his dropping, he never came back.
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gunnerWV
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2011 9:40:01 AM
Your right on about Citgo gas.Just so that all of you know,Exxon,Shell,
Chevron,Mobil are arab oil.Flying J,BP,and Sheetz are not arab oil.
There are several other off brand stations in the mid west and south,
that are not arab oil that includes Wal-mart gas.
7-11 was tied in to Citgo for awhile I'am not sure now though.some Citgo,
stations have started pulling up there stations at 7-11's around my area.
Since we are on boycott's,Don't forget Cambell Soup and there products.
On Sept.22 they were in Canada to support the Hamas.Jarrhead can go to,
there website to check this out as there proud of it.There website is,
on there food products.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2011 9:14:18 AM
jaarhead:
For most people, the idea that Chavez is president of a country and the parent ownership of CITGO is a Venezuelan organization is sufficient proof that Chavez owns CITGO. His predecessor, however, apparently didn't own CITGO. Seems ownership isn't always with the President, just when you want it to be.
Seriously, no one has shown any linkage other than he's president of the country and therefore... I guess, in the same way that when the U.S. took part ownership of General Motors our president became the apparent owner of GM. Or something like that. But I think the Chavez-owns-Citgo people think that's entirely different because we're a democracy. Or something.
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jaarhead
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2011 3:09:04 PM
Perhaps we need a little more convincing about the claim of CITGO being a Chavez-owned company. I don't like him either, but please present some facts with a web link with some decent credibility.
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chelaramie
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2011 8:39:50 AM
I don't buy from Citgo and won't!
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train55
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2011 3:41:17 PM
The boycott should be extended to all oil-based products that derive from oil received from the middle-east which is allot of product since we don't really know where we are receiving the oil products from whether it's domestically or foreign-made?? That's the message??
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2011 8:29:14 AM
madmax posts "the citgo gas stations are govt owned(socialist county venezuala)"
No they aren't they are franchise businesses. We have been through this many times, and if you actually checked Snopes out you would have seen the statement that CITGO supplies approximately 14,000 independent retailers.
And if people really researched, they would find many companies purchase crude from Venezuela, so half the "boycotters" probably have gasoline from Venezuela crude in their tanks upon occasion, and have no way of knowing it.
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madmax9813
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2011 7:57:09 AM
read this link about this topic on snopes
/politics/gasoline/citgo.asp
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madmax9813
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2011 7:49:47 AM
Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Oct-10 Sep-10 YTD 2010 Oct-09 YTD 2009
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CANADA 1,840 1,936 1,962 1,858 1,919
MEXICO 1,178 1,098 1,123 1,015 1,109
SAUDI ARABIA 1,114 1,082 1,077 938 1,005
VENEZUELA 887 919 924 879 985
NIGERIA 812 1,107 1,000 853 734
COLOMBIA 400 308 336 282 262
ANGOLA 311 404 399 437 471
ALGERIA 259 366 326 327 282
KUWAIT 215 172 205 104 171
ECUADOR 203 229 196 174 194
RUSSIA 182 236 278 159 243
BRAZIL 168 177 258 169 310
IRAQ 143 422 429 499 461
OMAN 107 0 11 0 36
GABON 101 71 51 31 68
Total Imports of Petroleum (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Oct-10 Sep-10 YTD 2010 Oct-09 YTD 2009
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CANADA 2,345 2,475 2,516 2,367 2,447
MEXICO 1,345 1,256 1,263 1,136 1,223
SAUDI ARABIA 1,121 1,093 1,090 943 1,032
VENEZUELA 930 1,008 998 955 1,103
NIGERIA 872 1,174 1,037 869 770
RUSSIA 655 648 626 385 596
ALGERIA 451 543 503 491 497
COLOMBIA 422 363 366 292 285
ANGOLA 324 417 409 450 481
VIRGIN ISLANDS 270 302 263 215 283
KUWAIT 215 172 207 104 174
ECUADOR 203 229 198 180 198
BRAZIL 169 181 275 174 326
UNITED KINGDOM 152 178 265 278 255
IRAQ 143 422 429 499 462
Note: The data in the tables above exclude oil imports into the U.S. territories.
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madmax9813
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2011 7:32:10 AM
the citgo gas stations are govt owned(socialist county venezuala), therefore, the profits they make go the venezualan government, ie, hugo chavez.
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madmax9813
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2011 7:27:19 AM
valero is not a chavez owned oil company, however citgo is
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petrocracking
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2011 7:01:29 PM
Is this is about gasoline or about politicians? Because Mr. Hugo Chavez don't have nothing to do with the high price that we pay for the gas.The people in venezuela pay a 25 cents per gallons because they oewned the petrol what make costly the gasoline in the capitalits country is the especulation of the gasoline .They want make more and more and more money they don't know what is enough,they want take all your money leave yuo leaveing in the stree they don't careabout you.
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TommyR
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2011 9:41:18 AM
Perhaps scoutmaster, however the local station owner has a choice from what company he/she signs a contract with.
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HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2011 8:53:21 AM
I still don't understand where Hugo Chavez is selling gas at. I never see him at any gas stations I visit. I have looked for him and even asked if he was working while I was there but the people just look at me like I am stupid.
Maybe Hugo isn't working at any gas stations.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2011 8:20:38 AM
By boycotting a local station you are hurting the owner more than big oil.
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sluggopyle
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2011 10:41:35 PM
My guess as to what Frugalfreda is trying to say there is "don't buy gas from Saudi Arabia". I guess.
Unfortunately that's another viral e-mail myth, that you can pick your source according to station brand. We already know it doesn't work that way, and that in any given station the source is as likely to be Saudi Arabia as Venezuela as Nigeria as Canada. Probably a combination.
What we should really boycott is viral e-mail mythology.
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frugalfreda
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2011 6:42:48 PM
Are we trying to be "politically correct" in our language of what our dollars to to when we purchase from Hugo Chavez owned fuel stations??? It's called TERRORISM!!! When you purchase from these stations...you are giving your money to hurt the people from your own country and/or our allies!!! Go ahead and buy the cheapest...I hope you can keep your conscience clear when we are attacked! I like to buy the cheapest too...but NOT at the expense of those who are on my side!!! :(
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gasfreak1234
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2011 4:41:19 PM
@Gas Buddy the B***D we are talking about is Hugo Chavez read the topic name
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DarqFox
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2011 12:29:18 AM
I'm gonna buy from whoever is the cheapest!
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2011 3:07:45 AM
scrapheap, now this is getting stupid. Nobody said anybody was "obligated" to buy from anybody. But advocating economic warfare against family, friends, neighbours, fellow taxpayers, which is what a boycott against CITGO would be, is reprehensible.
But if that is what floats your boat...........
TommyR, if you were a gas station owner at the end of a contract, you would be free to do whatever you wanted with any company that agreed to contract with you. If you were in the middle of a contract, and changing would cost you thousands of dollars, when you are marketing a product earning pennies profit per gallon, I imagine you would not be changing midstream.
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sluggopyle
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2011 2:28:58 AM
I think he's talking about Ookmon. I thought he was the last one referenced.
Incidentally I NEVER buy at an Ookmon station. Your money is going to anti-message board interests. Plus, he owns the state of Michigan.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2011 5:37:02 PM
Which b***d are we talking about? The king of Saudi Arabia? Or Putin?
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GoneUpAgain
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2011 4:30:15 PM
I agree!! Let this b***d rot in Hades.
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2011 2:36:58 PM
Gas Buddy - I owe you an apology. I thought you were capable of an actual discussion. Instead you chose to fixate on a single word, one which I have not used to describe Hugo's relationship with CITGO, and make analogies to failed US corporations that really miss the mark. Obviously I overestimated you. Sorry dude.
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sluggopyle
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2011 2:22:39 PM
=> Now; maybe we should wait to see what OOKMON thinks before we continue. <=
As they say in Yiddish: "we should live so long" ;-)
(Huh?? Putin doesn't own the Bolshoi Ballet? What a relief. Now I can go see it.)
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2011 2:03:41 PM
TommyR knows I frequently disagree with him, and I do on this issue, but I don't disrespect his right to boycott on principle. Just that if all he's doing is simply not buy a product or a brand, but not letting anyone know other than an in anonymous posts on a small website, in a thread with not more than a dozen participants, it doesn't appear, to me, to be a very good or productive boycott. But, I respect his right to do what he believes in. That said, if we go back to the original post (for which OOKMAN has provided considerable insight and perspective, and his exceptional commentary to everyone else's post, pro and con - that was said, everyone, tongue in cheek), the post said avoid gas stations owned by Hugo Chavez. Forgetting that Valero and Fast Lane have nothing to do with Hugo Chavez, the bottom line is that Hugo Chavez doesn't CITGO, regardless of whether or not CITGO is a Venezuelan-government owned company any more than Barack Obama owns Fanny Mae or Fanny Mac, or any more than Queen Elizabeth owns the Bank of England, or Vladimir Putin owns the Bolshoi Ballet.
Now; maybe we should wait to see what OOKMON thinks before we continue.
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sluggopyle
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2011 12:08:07 PM
Of course Tommy's got those of us who point out all the fallacies on Ignore. Can't have them in the bubble. Fallacies spoil the fantasies.
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