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jamieg2012 Veteran Author Sioux Falls Posts:286 Points:11,385 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2012 12:31:43 PM Ignore jamieg2012 Report Abuse with the blending pumps becoming more and more common wondering if any of you know the maximum blend a typical kia can handle i know e85 is out of the question unless i get a flex fuel conversion kit but wondering things like e20 or e15 kind of thing

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with the blending pumps becoming more and more common wondering if any of you know the maximum blend a typical kia can handle

i know e85 is out of the question unless i get a flex fuel conversion kit but wondering things like e20 or e15 kind of thing

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jamieg2012 Veteran Author Sioux Falls Posts:286 Points:11,385 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Mar 23, 2012 11:14:55 PM Ignore jamieg2012 Report Abuse trev my dad bought his kia about 10 years ago and is still running and looking just fine there is a small rust spot and that is only from a truck kicking up a rock and scratching the paint other than that 1 spot it is perfectly fine i think you have kia and yugo mixed up
SilverStreaker Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:12,070 Points:2,242,230 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Mar 23, 2012 2:47:44 PM Ignore SilverStreaker Report Abuse Pede must be unlucky. I don't know anyone who had an engine ruined by ethanol. E10 has been required in Minnesota for about 15 years.
krzysiek_ck Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,490 Points:754,885 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Mar 23, 2012 2:41:21 PM Ignore krzysiek_ck Report Abuse Pede wrote: "So far the ethanol has wiped out most of my small engines it will be only time before it hurts the larger engines" You must be very unlucky person. I have used E10 for over 15 years in small and large engines and I have yet to encounter a single Ethanol related issue.
Pede Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,397 Points:670,220 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Mar 23, 2012 11:35:13 AM Ignore Pede Report Abuse So far the ethanol has wiped out most of my small engines it will be only time before it hurts the larger engines
Trev71 Sophomore Author New Brunswick Posts:179 Points:30,260 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 23, 2012 9:39:31 AM Ignore Trev71 Report Abuse Kias are horrible i wouldnt worry about the ethanol id be more worried about it rusting out and falling apart
gamechanger2011 Champion Author Wichita Posts:1,597 Points:56,710 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Mar 23, 2012 9:11:00 AM Ignore gamechanger2011 Report Abuse Rumbelseat wrote "Note the many people who experiment with higher blends don't report problems, it is the people who don't even try it." You are so right!
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:23,058 Points:3,549,380 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Mar 23, 2012 8:53:25 AM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse Running higher than 10% only voids your warranty if it can be proven a failure was related to the fuel. If your car is past warranty, as ours are, then it is a personal choice whether to experiment. Note the many people who experiment with higher blends don't report problems, it is the people who don't even try it.
gamechanger2011 Champion Author Wichita Posts:1,597 Points:56,710 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 11:09:28 AM Ignore gamechanger2011 Report Abuse "In fact, running your car on alcohol actually makes the engine last longer. You could probably get two to three times the engine life if you run your car on alcohol instead of gasoline. This is because running the internal combustion engine on alcohol produces no carbon soot which is one of the major causes of engine wear and tear. Studies have shown that cars and trucks in Brazil and the U.K. that used only alcohol lasted almost three times as long as their gasoline and diesel counterparts." [Edited by: gamechanger2011 at 3/22/2012 11:09:57 AM EST]
gamechanger2011 Champion Author Wichita Posts:1,597 Points:56,710 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 9:39:12 AM Ignore gamechanger2011 Report Abuse Cornhick. I understand when there are warranty issues. But to say across the board, that in the long run engines run better on E0 is not a true statement. "In fact, running your car on alcohol actually makes the engine last longer." Three myths about alcohol
chemist74 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:13,510 Points:2,395,980 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 8:57:52 AM Ignore chemist74 Report Abuse If you use an ethanol level higher than listed in the owner's manual (10%), you will void your warranty. There are potentially two types of problems from high levels of ethanol in a non-flex fuel vehicle. Too high levels may cause poor running or an immediate error code. There could also be problems that will not shiow up for a while.
CORNHICK All-Star Author Omaha Posts:601 Points:272,385 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 12:59:13 AM Ignore CORNHICK Report Abuse I would just run regular gas without ethanol it saves you money in the long run to not use any ethanol
jamieg2012 Veteran Author Sioux Falls Posts:286 Points:11,385 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 12:12:33 AM Ignore jamieg2012 Report Abuse there was a test on non flex fuel cars and their chevy got to e55 before any error codes but none of their cars was a kia as for fuel economy people think they tested it right but reality is they have differences like driving less efficiently from one tank to the next and more city driving where traffic basically has you stopped most of the time so they would get worse economy no matter what they use if i can burn the e30 as standard from the blending pump then it would be cheaper ethanol being worse economy is not really the problem - how you drive is
bowler93 All-Star Author Pennsylvania Posts:724 Points:463,950 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 2:54:59 PM Ignore bowler93 Report Abuse Just use the regular E10 gas you get basically everywhere.
RacerGene Champion Author Alabama Posts:1,703 Points:366,225 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 12:12:28 PM Ignore RacerGene Report Abuse stay clear
timmyC4 Veteran Author Twin Cities Posts:417 Points:60,600 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2012 10:00:12 AM Ignore timmyC4 Report Abuse In all seriousness, why would you want to run that crap? Less economy man.
SilverStreaker Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:12,070 Points:2,242,230 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2012 9:54:00 AM Ignore SilverStreaker Report Abuse jamieg2012, try adding a gallon of E85 to your next tank. Then try 2, then 3, etc., until you get a check engine light (CEL). The CEL means too much oxygen in your exhaust, so won't hurt your car, but you don't want to run without a working CEL. When you get the CEL, you can just add gas to your next fill. If that doesn't clear the CEL, your auto parts store will likely do it for free. Welcome to Gas Buddys!