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JT Moderator	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2011 12:01:01 AM Ignore JT Report Abuse Which of the following do you think are appropriate use(s) of video cameras for law enforcement? Traffic lights Speed control Toll booths Cameras on police cars Other use(s) All of the above More than one of the above No such use is appropriate Post your thoughts about this poll below.

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Which of the following do you think are appropriate use(s) of video cameras for law enforcement?
Traffic lights
Speed control
Toll booths
Cameras on police cars
Other use(s)
All of the above
More than one of the above
No such use is appropriate

Post your thoughts about this poll below.

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SovietSunrise Champion Author San Antonio Posts:7,899 Points:1,117,010 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2011 1:49:43 AM Ignore SovietSunrise Report Abuse Nothing that increases the temptation of revenue generation!!! NOTHING!!!! screams obscenities in anger wearing a straitjacket
pinbuster2005 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:5,210 Points:1,521,475 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2011 3:31:58 AM Ignore pinbuster2005 Report Abuse lasing wrote - "I was with my sister in-law a couple weeks ago as she SLOWLY rolled toward a red light to save gas. It snapped a picture as if she were going to run the red, but the light did in fact turn green before she went through. How is that appropriate use?" The thing is that if part of her automobile went past the stop line before the light turned green then it's actually a red light violation according to the law. You don't have to completely go through to make it a violation. If the front of the car is past the stop line then it can be considered a violation. You have to be stopped and completely behind the stop line. [Edited by: pinbuster2005 at 3/20/2011 3:34:36 AM EST]
figman Champion Author Chicago Posts:13,762 Points:3,662,020 Joined:Sep 2001	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 11:08:04 PM Ignore figman Report Abuse I answered in patrol cars. I should have answered more than one, since I think cameras in high crime residential areas are good to deter/detect crime.
merlin631 Rookie Author Florida Posts:7 Points:1,050 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 10:16:07 PM Ignore merlin631 Report Abuse Camera on police cars protect the citizens as well as the cops. No one is above the law and hopefully the cameras will prove it.
Edcanada Rookie Author Calgary Posts:18 Points:25,860 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 8:23:25 PM Ignore Edcanada Report Abuse Good citizens have nothing to fear from cameras
tankerCA Champion Author Chico Posts:2,579 Points:353,590 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 7:35:17 PM Ignore tankerCA Report Abuse Seems like a lot of good thoughts posted on this thread. What about the special license plate covers that block cameras from seeing the plate numbers - yet are visible to the eye?
357revo Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:18,118 Points:2,383,630 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 5:50:44 PM Ignore 357revo Report Abuse 1. Cameras on police cars 2. Cameras at toll booths to catch skip artists. Definitely NOT on traffic lights or speed control.
Rocksnobster Champion Author Albany Posts:12,911 Points:213,790 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 5:11:44 PM Ignore Rocksnobster Report Abuse Video cams should go to responsible dog constables to enhance their jobs in dog enforcement.
SuperMoto Champion Author Connecticut Posts:1,006 Points:1,577,940 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 3:59:34 PM Ignore SuperMoto Report Abuse Cameras on police cars
chui Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,903 Points:2,366,325 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 3:06:04 PM Ignore chui Report Abuse traffic lights.
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,282 Points:559,080 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 2:43:22 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse Yes i agree that even the police officers do break the law when they are chasing people speeding,people talking on their cellphone when they should be keeping their eyes on the road.I think talking on your cellphone should not be allowed and the law should be enforced by each state.People speeding is very dangerous and their should be more police cars in every city.The laws are to liberal and should be strictly enforced.
zacksnanny Champion Author New Brunswick Posts:1,634 Points:2,201,745 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 1:57:27 PM Ignore zacksnanny Report Abuse No such use is appropriate
Pizzaslut Champion Author Baltimore Posts:4,354 Points:749,015 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 10:38:52 AM Ignore Pizzaslut Report Abuse Red Light and Speed Cams should be handed over to a Citizens Commission and used to catch cops abusing the law and the fine monies should go back to the taxpayers.
Lengas Champion Author Gary Posts:13,550 Points:2,717,025 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 10:04:38 AM Ignore Lengas Report Abuse All of the above and whatever else it takes to get the law breakers off the street.
jorjab Sophomore Author Philadelphia Posts:155 Points:1,151,600 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 8:28:02 AM Ignore jorjab Report Abuse Cameras on police cars and toll booths. I voted for toll booths. Other places are intrusive and don't always give the entire picture.
N9HVP Champion Author Indiana Posts:11,708 Points:2,470,640 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 8:26:36 AM Ignore N9HVP Report Abuse Cameras on police cars.
Bonanza Champion Author Boston Posts:12,087 Points:2,551,005 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 7:37:32 AM Ignore Bonanza Report Abuse Cameras on police cars
Ziggy1962 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:5,749 Points:1,810,685 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 7:26:17 AM Ignore Ziggy1962 Report Abuse Toll booth
fortune88 Rookie Author Toronto Posts:2 Points:140 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 6:28:58 AM Ignore fortune88 Report Abuse I suppose speed control video cameras are needed on residential and school areas, however more than one of the above is appropriate.
markstro75846 Rookie Author Arkansas Posts:2 Points:1,605 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 3:01:15 AM Ignore markstro75846 Report Abuse Traffic lights the most to many wrecks from people runing the lights All of the above
CrackedLCD Champion Author Alabama Posts:9,030 Points:1,754,825 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 2:12:42 AM Ignore CrackedLCD Report Abuse dangnad: still pictures are actually more troublesome than video evidence of a moving violation, because they take away the situation surrounding the violation. The still image won't show a creeping car or a false alarm, or other issues that might otherwise cause it to not be a violation. As for speed cameras, they use radar to determine vehicle speed then take a picture of the license plate, vehicle and usually a picture of the driver as well for identity purposes.
OKRifle Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:10,397 Points:1,809,310 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 1:11:32 AM Ignore OKRifle Report Abuse Cameras in police cars & toll booths!
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,282 Points:559,080 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 12:08:07 AM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse Cameras in police cars.
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,282 Points:559,080 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2011 12:04:15 AM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse All of the above.
trucker432 Champion Author Midland Odessa Posts:8,671 Points:2,158,215 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 8:47:25 PM Ignore trucker432 Report Abuse I personally supporthe use for them on police cars, toll booths and red light cameras but that is just my opinion! People shouldn't run red lights yet you see it all the time especially here in Odessa on 42nd Street!
dangnad All-Star Author Las Vegas Posts:864 Points:474,355 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 8:25:05 PM Ignore dangnad Report Abuse Remember the question asked about VIDEO cameras. They're certainly necessary for police cars, mostly to watch the police themselves. A video camera to catch red light runners, toll booth runners, etc. would be inappropriate. A still pic including the license plate is required. I suppose it would good for rolling through stop signs but how about cost/day or cost/catch. How would video work for speed control? Isn't that for radar?
pictureman Champion Author Miami Posts:1,218 Points:1,346,505 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 8:04:05 PM Ignore pictureman Report Abuse I am so mad, my friend barrowed my Hemi and did not pay a toll, I recieved a letter for unpaid toll vialation it was for $3.00. I lost the letter and just yesterday they sent me another letter and upped the fine to $6.00! I paid in on line right away this time!
bicycler Champion Author Ontario Posts:14,815 Points:2,598,445 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 7:48:01 PM Ignore bicycler Report Abuse traffic lights are best!
pkhdonovan Champion Author Maine Posts:12,006 Points:2,704,830 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 6:04:45 PM Ignore pkhdonovan Report Abuse police and toll booths
CarrollTX Rookie Author Texas Posts:2 Points:4,235 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 5:41:00 PM Ignore CarrollTX Report Abuse Cameras on police cars film the actual facts of what happens between the officer(s) and the civilian(s).
Pspeed Champion Author Baltimore Posts:7,149 Points:930,210 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 5:08:55 PM Ignore Pspeed Report Abuse Traffic light cams, speed cameras and toll booth cams that only tape police cars.
Toyotatrollop Champion Author Baltimore Posts:7,464 Points:828,550 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 4:34:38 PM Ignore Toyotatrollop Report Abuse Untrained police hogs with video cams. Just because.
zacksnanny Champion Author New Brunswick Posts:1,634 Points:2,201,745 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 4:31:55 PM Ignore zacksnanny Report Abuse No such use is appropriate
TNT2011 Rookie Author Mississippi Posts:2 Points:140 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 4:09:23 PM Ignore TNT2011 Report Abuse I think they are all good reasons for them to use.. especially speed control and on police cars...
kino10 Champion Author California Posts:2,253 Points:123,015 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 2:52:19 PM Ignore kino10 Report Abuse if cameras are what it takes to make the roads safe...............
chui Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,903 Points:2,366,325 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 12:59:20 PM Ignore chui Report Abuse traffic linghts
Scooby1971 Rookie Author Madison Posts:8 Points:220,935 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 12:34:06 PM Ignore Scooby1971 Report Abuse I find it quite interesting that everyone who is driving supposedly passed drivers education in high school or some other course equal to that. Last I checked the rules are in the books used to teach those classes and courses. Shows the complete disregard for the laws which are intended to safely allow us to drive, which is a privilege not a right one is born into. As for cameras, I strongly feel they are needed in all the situations to act as a reminder to obey the law. Cameras never will prevent an accident or someone from breaking the law, but they will help hold those who break them accountable for their actions. Unfortunately I live in a state where video enforcement is not allowed other then in patrol cars. Will echo what others have said. Obey the law and you have nothing to worry about other then the other idiots out there who feel they are owed the world.
toliver1960 Rookie Author Georgia Posts:24 Points:1,660 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 11:51:48 AM Ignore toliver1960 Report Abuse cameras on police cars.they keep both the police and the public safe from each other.
seqtrd2 Rookie Author Maine Posts:8 Points:2,745 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 10:47:01 AM Ignore seqtrd2 Report Abuse cameras are a good tool for law inforcment......!!
Terdburner Champion Author Idaho Posts:5,398 Points:167,530 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 9:46:23 AM Ignore Terdburner Report Abuse Specially trained police beavers with video cams that would tape whatever they thought was appropriate.
CRAZYKAYFREAK All-Star Author Missouri Posts:674 Points:28,080 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 9:23:59 AM Ignore CRAZYKAYFREAK Report Abuse I support all of the above as long as they are used appropriately.
Lasing Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:14,204 Points:2,306,400 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 7:58:25 AM Ignore Lasing Report Abuse No such use is appropriate. This used to be a free country! I was with my sister in-law a couple weeks ago as she SLOWLY rolled toward a red light to save gas. It snapped a picture as if she were going to run the red, but the light did in fact turn green before she went through. How is that appropriate use? The more freedoms you are wiling to give up, the more they will take. Eventually, you will wake up, but by then, it will be too late.
keo Champion Author Colorado Posts:10,250 Points:2,033,865 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 7:46:11 AM Ignore keo Report Abuse everything
Lengas Champion Author Gary Posts:13,550 Points:2,717,025 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 6:15:33 AM Ignore Lengas Report Abuse All of the above plus whatever else it takes to make drivers become law abiding drivers again.
Bonanza Champion Author Boston Posts:12,087 Points:2,551,005 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 6:05:38 AM Ignore Bonanza Report Abuse Cameras on police cars
N9HVP Champion Author Indiana Posts:11,708 Points:2,470,640 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 5:44:14 AM Ignore N9HVP Report Abuse Cameras on police cars.
Ziggy1962 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:5,749 Points:1,810,685 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 5:31:16 AM Ignore Ziggy1962 Report Abuse Toll booths
pinbuster2005 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:5,210 Points:1,521,475 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 4:47:34 AM Ignore pinbuster2005 Report Abuse It's time we enforced our traffic laws like they should be and if it means the use of cameras to do it I'm all for it. People have tried to use Germany as an example of areas that drive fast and are safe. That is true. My cousin that was stationed there for 8 years while in the army told me that the Germans STRICTLY enforce their traffic laws. Even on the autobahn in the sections that have no speed limit you can drive what ever speed you want but don't get caught tailgating, not yeilding when coming on the highway, weaving in and out of traffic, ect or you will pay a hefty fine. In the areas that of the autobahn and other roads that have speed limits they use radar cameras. They also have red light cameras. It must work for them because in 2009 7.2 people per 100,000 automobiles were killed in accidents on their roads. Here in the USA that figure more than doubles. We had 15.0 people per 100,000 automobiles killed on our roads. I don't remember what Germany ranked but we were 93rd in the world for deaths per 100,000 automobiles. That means 92 countries in the world are better than we are when it comes to deaths on our roads. The problem is here is that when someone is speeding, fails to yeild coming on the highway, runs a light, ect and almosts hits someone. That person that almost got hit will say "why aren't the cops out here enforcing the traffic laws". But When they get caught doing the same thing that same person that was complaining about the cops not enforcing the law will say "they are only doing it for revenue generation" or "they're just trying to meet their ticket quota". In my 23+ years of driving I've gotten one speeding ticket during my first year on the road. I haven't had a moving violation of any kind since. I've also had only one minor fender bender when I hit a patch of ice during a storm doing 20 mph and hit the guard rail. The reason for such a good record is because I follow the traffic laws including the speedlimits I might not agree with in some areas here because they are still the law. People cause an accident or run a light at an intersection that has a camera and they blame it on the camera. I want to know something about those people. Did the camera take over control of the automobile or your mind. Last I knew the driver was in control of the automobile. It's the fact that people don't want to take responsibility for their own actions like they should. There are two intersections that I go thru everyday going back and forth to work that have had red light cameras for three years + and I've never gotten a ticket from them. I look at it as if you are following the traffic laws you'll never have anything to worry about.
lihcglab Rookie Author Missouri Posts:1 Points:520 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 1:57:07 AM Ignore lihcglab Report Abuse One thing that I have witnessed personally was my niece. the use of camera's at stop lights does not tell you EXACTLY who was driving the vehicle, therefore when my niece ran a stop light my sister was ticketed. I do think to some extent the camera's help, but I also think they need to ticket those idiots who block traffic trying to beat the light from changing. All that does is cause more problems and slow traffic flow because other people are not able to move when the light says they should.
OKRifle Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:10,397 Points:1,809,310 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 1:20:30 AM Ignore OKRifle Report Abuse Use all that it takes to catch the idiots, dumb as, dirt bags and stupidos who try to drive while on the cell phone!
oldguy56 Rookie Author Phoenix Posts:3 Points:20,860 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 1:17:21 AM Ignore oldguy56 Report Abuse While nothing pisses me off more than being a victim of "that flash, " it does what it's supposed to do... slows us down and reduces accidents. Driving is legally a privilege, not a right. That which helps saves lives is right. My only grjp with photoradar has been on highway 51 in phoenix. And there only because the speed limit changes from 65 to 55 And back With little warning and Strategically placed radar to take advantage of The driver rather than help safety.
imariverman Rookie Author Iowa Posts:31 Points:33,635 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Mar 18, 2011 1:12:16 AM Ignore imariverman Report Abuse I believe all of the above have uses that outweigh the negative. I cannot believe how many bad drivers and risky drivers there is in Sioux City. Any thing that may help keep them in line is a good thing.