anascom

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Hamilton
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Message Posted: May 8, 2012 12:04:51 AM
repost of the same article here:
here
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wamster

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Houston
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Message Posted: May 7, 2012 10:21:01 AM
I test drove and had the Suzuki SX4 hatchback for a week in 2009. It was a fun car to drive, but horrible fuel mileage for the size.
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jeffbone

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Virginia
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Message Posted: May 7, 2012 10:13:27 AM
"Dodge Ram 1500 2wd 6 cyl"
No kidding. Other than municipalities who want a barebones work truck, who else would buy a pickup truck configured that way?
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Tacodan

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: May 7, 2012 7:11:30 AM
6. Toyota Matrix…....….………We have a Vibe which is the same car and love it, also gets better mpg than stated we get mid 30's hwy and have seen 40 twice
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SavingInNC

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: May 7, 2012 6:03:16 AM
Thank you
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koikaze

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: May 7, 2012 2:34:24 AM
interesting article, thanks!
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OilOnTheCheap

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Ventura
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Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:49:02 AM
I would not purchase a vehicle from the list. It did surprise me to see the RAM 1500 on the list.
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johnnyg1200

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:12:23 AM
The cars I won’t buy are anything made by Chrysler or should I say Fiat, also electric cars and hybrids are not on my shopping list either. Chrysler still owes the U.S. tax payer 1.3 billion dollars that we will never get back. EV’s and hybrids are far too expensive and don’t have the required performance.
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lesndave

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Texas
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Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:09:24 AM
Thanks for the list
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1momsunshine

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:08:07 AM
hmm
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WildmanMick

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 11:38:57 PM
I believe that Matrix sales have been hurt by the Prius... my opinion....
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CVA19

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Salem
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 10:58:08 PM
Look on the bright side! With all the "lot time" these vehicles get, if you really, REALLY want one (which I don't), there are plenty from which to choose. You can take your time deciding, and probably get it for a good price.
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deputydog082

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Detroit
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 8:37:50 PM
buy American to keep manufacturing jobs here
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alterman156

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New York
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 8:34:31 PM
None of the vehicles on the 10 worst sellers list are that great except which for the Toyota Matrix which has had a decent reliability record. The Toyota Yaris has been reliable, but a mediocre performer. The Honda Element is reliable, but it is an oddball.
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Tehbob

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California
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 7:05:47 PM
hmm
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northeast2

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New York
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 7:01:37 PM
"The Matrix debuted in 2003 as a hatchback variation on the Corolla. The car, like its compact role model, gets decent gas mileage of 26 MPG in the city and 32 MPG on the highway. It also received very good reviews on Consumer Reports for reliability, owner costs and depreciation. Nevertheless, sales of the vehicle have been terrible. Toyota sold 49,400 units of the hatchback in 2008, 14,470 units in 2010, and less than 14,000 in 2011."
Wow. That's a real drop in sales.
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Night Owl

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Toronto
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 6:43:18 PM
Thanks for this list.
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dgerst

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 6:35:50 PM
The auto makers better listen. Customers vote with their dollars.
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hubie24

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Michigan
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 6:32:32 PM
I wont buy anything that gets less than 40 mpg.
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pscamp

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 6:27:11 PM
WE
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PathfinderSC

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 6:13:09 PM
Did not see anything I would buy.
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72_Monte

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 5:50:54 PM
Nothing there that I'd buy.
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lou30

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Miami
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 5:19:41 PM
I'm in the market for a vehicle and thought, 'Great, this list will help me get a deal on cars that no one wants.' And then I saw it, no wonder. They're just not good cars for the most part.
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uglytom

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Florida
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 5:09:41 PM
I won't either!
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tnfran

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Arizona
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 4:44:24 PM
Mixed bag here and a few surprises.
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TruthMatters

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 4:28:39 PM
Only surprise for me is the Matrix
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jjjleblanc

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Rochester
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 4:27:46 PM
Last model year for the DTS. The XTS replacement is a better looking car.
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MusicalMan7

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Ohio
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 4:05:21 PM
@shatzila - Ditto here. In fact, I didn't buy ANY cars. Howver, I see a lot of Dodge Ram pickups and Caddies on the road (new Caddies just don't LOOK like Caddies now, they look like a generic fancy Olds, which I guess is really what they are and always have been anyhow). As for Honda Element & Toyoata Yaris, those vehicles are just plain FUGLY.
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schatzila

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 3:56:28 PM
I didn't buy of them either.
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jimgraham

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Akron
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 3:43:44 PM
If I were in the market for a new car or truck, NONE of those would be on my look-at list.
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MetroSexual

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 3:43:34 PM
At only 13 MPG city, the Nissan Titan should be discontinued.
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HorizonChaser

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Montgomery
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 3:29:11 PM
I'm a bit surprised at the Kia Rio. The others not so much when I look at the gas mileage.
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ScottTee

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Detroit
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 2:53:47 PM
time to adjust the lineup of vehicles
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Gas4Gore

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Detroit
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 2:31:45 PM
As bad as the Routan and the Titan are they sell much more than the Volt or Leaf, go figure eh?
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doggod

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Anchorage
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 2:25:26 PM
My list of cars I will not buy: All of them. Can't afford them, don't need them.
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fuel2use

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Seattle
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 2:21:57 PM
A wide variety for a variety of reasons.
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fracknsave

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 2:19:45 PM
the dolt didn't have enough base sales to qualify for this list.
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The_DR

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 2:09:52 PM
Amazing
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Grizdad

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 2:02:11 PM
What??? No Volt???? Flawed.
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OHMS

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Orange County
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 1:51:23 PM
In 2005, Volkswagen entered into a partnership with Chrysler to develop its own minivan, using the American automaker’s Town & Country as the base model. The Routan, when it was introduced in 2008, became the first minivan made by the German company in North America.
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cdrrod

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 1:50:52 PM
I would not buy any of them either, especially the Toyota Yaris and the Kia Rio (unless I had a death wish)!
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humblepie

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Toledo
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 1:49:46 PM
since chrysler is now fiat, it seem to be ALL foreign now
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blupupher

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Houston
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 1:27:04 PM
none of them are on my list of cars I want.
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dong1971

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 1:09:09 PM
good to know
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vrossi46

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San Jose
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 1:08:00 PM
yeah, I won't buy any of them
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BBopp

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Dayton
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 12:59:37 PM
I would buy a Yaris. The rest of them no thank you.
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herndonks

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 12:58:22 PM
interesting
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djwhit

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Ohio
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 12:54:17 PM
WE NEED JOBS 1ST..........AND, OBAMA OUT THE DOOR........
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aquarinut

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 12:52:44 PM
Suprised about the Dodge since we have a LOT of pickups in the area but then, realized virtually all of them are extended cabs or crew cabs with 4 doors.
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cwashi3324

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 12:43:35 PM
cool!
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